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[gander448]

So im in my second year at CC and pretty much all the girls I met got guys and i ain't trying to do some grimy shit so i passed on most of em. But this semester I met this chick and she's pretty cool, and single. At first i wasn't even lookin for that, we were just workin on school shit together but then during the break (it's a night class, 4 hours long) we started talking and laughin and shit.

Since we only meet once a week, i didn't see her to much but i got her number the second week and we were gonna study for the test. I was like sure why not and then the day we planned to study came and i kinda forgot and aparently she did too. I called her up once i remembered and left a message but she didn't call me back till 10-11. She said she was sleepin and it was her bad. We talked on the phone for like an hour tho about this and that

The day of the test was monday night and the niners were playin so i wanted to go after we finshed the test and she volunteered and told me to go watch the game and that she would take lecture notes for me. So i was like cool and i bounced. The next week we were talkin about shit and she mentioned this resturant that i had never heard of and she reccommemnd i go and i was like why don't we go together and she was like yea. So we planned for the next wends. cuz she was going out of town and the day came and she said flaked again cuz of work. i was like dude, if you don't wanna go just say so, i wont be insulted or anything but she was appoligizing and saying she'll make it up to me.

Then two weeks ago she called me up and was like oh i'm going to the niners game (she was kinda rubbing it in my face) but she was kinda drunk and so was i so we didn't talk long but she called me the next day after the game and we talked for a while. Then the next class she said she had to be at a family thing and said she was gonna bounce, i said i'd cover her since she covered me and she left.

So now that i wrote the whole fucking back story my question is i wanna ask her to do something soon but i don't know if these flakings are sign of she don't want to or if she is actually down. I'll prob ask her tommorrow after class to do something, not sure of what yet.

So my question is basically do i got a good chance or should i take these as signs she just wanna be friends. Oh and any ideas what to ask her to do would be apreciated, i'm horrible with planning and figuring out shit to do, thanks in advance guys.

[ElCount]

Flakes are the worst cause you can't read them, you always think their scumbags but there's always that doubt like hmm...maybe something came up for them like her mom was in the hospital.

I think if you want her you should get aggressive, cause your bein' too safe and modest which is why she thinks it's cool to walk all over you. If she holds on to that option when y'all date it'll be hell on your part, she'll be cancelin dates and shit, being a real unreliable g/f and just gettin you stressed as hell.

By no means am I saying to yell in her face, but shit if it comes down to that maybe it's the best option. I mean you should throw some hints that you want her, just don't be too obvious and don't make it seem like ya desperate or insecure. And my philosophy is the "just friends" option is big no-no if it's someone you once wanted.

I'm the same way with being bad at planning and figuring out shit to do, maybe there's a restaurant or coffee shop near your CC you guys can just stop at, and if you have a fake you can take her to a social bar. W/e you do just stay away from a club or any areas where asshole guys gonna try to holla at her, I don't know about you but I can't stand competition when I'm serious about a chick, it's just frustrating and annoying and makes me wanna throw these dudes off bridges.

[(--LazerScope-->>]

What's happening here Gander, is that she's basically using you to boost her own ego. While she's with other dudes, she keeps you on the side as that one dude that strokes her ego. But don't feel bad about this. This happens to every guy eventually, and she's just looking for attention.

I STRONGLY advise you let her go. Don't call her anymore. It's ok to speak to her and be civil, but don't take anything she says with much weight (why should u? She flakes out on you all the time)

You're in a wonderful time of your life where you have easy access to females. You just gotta keep looking for 'em, and keep it mackish, playa........

Never settle for less.....

[I got that confident soul]

i would a gree with ^^^ that assessment of her, but I don't recommend moving on. u might have to, but don't go down without at least trying something new.


see, ur attracted to that kind of girl.

ur NOT attracted to the honestly good, ok personality, 6/10 type girl. those are the kind of girls that you probably could take out and start dating.

but, u don't want that.

u want that coo girl, who looks a little better, who has a little better personality and more of a party lifestyle

who wouldn't?

well, there are dudes who wouldn't and its not cuz their superugly or dumb or lame, it's cuz they really know what they want in a relationship. But until u truly get to that point, ur gonna still be attracted to girls like this.

So i recommend u try to play her back. and here's the way to do it.......

1) first of all, u have to accept that this girl probably thinks ur a chump and probably has for a minute, that's why shes been playing u. Maybe she didn't at first, but ur falling directly into here hands after she tested u. Maybe she doesn't think actually think it, but lets face it, ur not on the top of here priorities
*the reason this is important is cuz a lot of "good" guys think they're "good" guys and don't understand that a lot of women see them as suckers. the sooner ur realize this the better. it will save u a lot of time by not being drawn into their "tests"
**another reason for this is so you won't feel like shes worth treating like a someone u respect. I mean, u were a polite, cool dude, and she still ran all over u. If u get cut off in traffic, are u gonna let that car cut u off again? Naw, u'll either keep ur distance from that car or retaliate a little. So chose one. And if shes just flakey, do u really want a girl like that anyways?
2) becuz of this, she might have zero respect for ur manliness and u might as well give up, go home and not learn a damn thing
3) but if u played it halfway cool, u didn't sweat her really and there still an air of mystery and wildness to your image--which opens the door, just a little for u to try some game and get some experience under ur belt
4) i would take her out, start talking about relationships and shit. Ask her what she thinks, wants. what she thinkss about u. What u think about that shit.
What have u got to lose? If she starts actin weird like she doesn't want to talk about it just say that thats how u build mature relationships with the opposite sex, put everything out on the table. Tell her that it's important to establish early on what kind of relationship you 2 might have because both of your time is valuable and you don't want to waste anyones by actin like kids and being afraid to express ur thots.
Her response: "i like u as a friend"--if u think she means it, tell her then that ur cool with that but u want to establish a good relationship and tell her she should call u everyday or u call her or whatever, email each other idc--point is that u build a real friendship which can be good cuz we all could use REAL friends and she could potentially hook u up w/ other girls. Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, if shes kinda fake and u don't think she means it, and she might spread rumors that ur soft if u tell her ull call her everyday, then say "cool, me too" and just keep it superficial with her--what lazerscope was talking about.
Now, u gotta realize that she might say she doesn't like u altho she really does, shes just afraid to say it. In that case, it can't hurt to have her call u daily.

Point of this long ass story is that u need to learn to do that "air out" shit from the jump. Don't invest time and emotion into a broad that doesn't want to. Tell ur thots. She'll respect u more. U'll respect urself more. U'll learn more about her.


I was talking to my co-worker the other day and he made me think of all the dudes who chase girls like that. he doesn't. and his story made me think of all the dudes who i've known that have always had good, long lasting relationships

he said that when he was 15, his friends dad was bragging how he and his friends used to get my coworkers mom to suck their dicks for beers. My coworker said he heard shit like that from 2 other dudes. He decided from that point on, he would never try to get with a girl that wanted to be Miss thang. He knew those girls just want attention and they will do stupid embarrassing selfish shit for attention. and that shit has the potential to hurt other people. And all the dudes that i know who have good relationships, have that same determination in their minds.

so it seems like u don't got that determination. but take my advice and u'll start getting more girls and ull start to see that unless u want to play games, don't mess around with those type of girls.

[gander448]

haha, i haven't looked at this thread in a while. yea, i blew her off a while ago. We still talk and ish but just general bullshit. And yea, i know that i shouldn't be messing with girls like this but when you on a losing streak you go with it and maybe get lucky


on a side note, i met a girl a few weekends back and she's complete oppisite of this girl: smart, funny, down to earth, self respectful, all taht shit. I've been checking myself as well to make sure i don't fall for no traps but this situation is looking good to say the least :D

[~y~]

What's happening here Gander, is that she's basically using you to boost her own ego. While she's with other dudes, she keeps you on the side as that one dude that strokes her ego. But don't feel bad about this. This happens to every guy eventually, and she's just looking for attention.

I STRONGLY advise you let her go. Don't call her anymore. It's ok to speak to her and be civil, but don't take anything she says with much weight (why should u? She flakes out on you all the time)

Never settle for less.....
listen .. it's ok. we all are fools of infatuation, love and all that.