lack of motiviation at work

[h16h]

how the fuck do you motivate young kids to work nowadays?

the pay is great but perhaps ive created a overfriendly and casual work environment?

thanks for stopping by!

[ElCount]

Uhhh...when you refer to young kids are you referring to yourself, or young kids you work with?

And what exactly is ya job?

I've never worked a professional job, but I would say that if you've vreated an overfriendly work environment to the point where ya not doing ya job, you just gotta smack yaself in the face and throw some water on it.

Depends how cool you are with the Boss(wo)man too I guess, if your on the verge of getting fired or he's been snappy or disappointed with you and your work lately, then just stop playing it so cool and do ya damn job until it's straight.

If the pay's great you mos def wanna keep it.

[~y~]

I mean really ... I definitely see a difference in work ethic with younger people (18-early 20s). It's like most have high aspirations but they are not willing to put in the work to get there. I mean they will try you, step over you and try your boss and his/her boss to cut corners. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. They try to beat the clock and all kinds of things. I found that it takes an even hand to get through to them. I usually have fun, but when it comes down to business, I make the expectations clear. If you work with people, people will work for you. It's all about delivery and standing your ground.

[Cesar Chavez]

Let me first say that the above response is a personal insult, since I am in my early 20s and am a hard worker.

To answer your question; basically there is no general answer. People (re)act differently on certain aspects. You say the pay is great, but they still need it to live. Fucking up leads to getting fired and without pay. ALways make sure they DO know who's boss. You can let them know in several ways. Containing more knowledge (than them) always puts you in a stronger position, cause they need you and you don't need them.

Just look at your employees, know who they are and try to find a way to motivate them.

[~y~]

Let me first say that the above response is a personal insult, since I am in my early 20s and am a hard worker.

To answer your question; basically there is no general answer. People (re)act differently on certain aspects. You say the pay is great, but they still need it to live. Fucking up leads to getting fired and without pay. ALways make sure they DO know who's boss. You can let them know in several ways. Containing more knowledge (than them) always puts you in a stronger position, cause they need you and you don't need them.

Just look at your employees, know who they are and try to find a way to motivate them.


If you were offended I apologize. It wasn't directed at the entire group of younger people for when I was in my late teens and early 20s, I was responsible at work and worked my ass off too which is partly why it's frustrating as hell. An older colleague tried to warn me, but I didn't get it until I got busy.

I must admit that a good part of the 25+ group tend to tick me off more so than the younger ones. For the 18 to early 20s group, I sum it all to naiveté and not knowing business etiquette, and to a certain extent, that's something I had to learn myself. All that takes it a good bit of training and coaching for those who want to go get it. For the 25+ group it's just down right disappointing. I mean really, if you're 25+, have a job and you're running away from your responsibility on the job ... do me a favor and get a job elsewhere. I say this because my performance and compensation depends solely on those individuals who report to me. That's hard as hell considering I work my ass off to get the job done and some ppl just can't be motivated to that level. I don't know, either it's because they don't care or they are trying to catch a free ride. I try to relate to them and find a way to motivate them. It is a welcomed challenge nonetheless.

Other than that, you just reiterated what I stated ... it's all about delivery and standing your ground.

[TONY Gigolo]

Yahmi, you sound like ur *coo coo* for cocoa puffs..

@H16h how much is the pay? cause I know for a fact pay is usually a great motivation..
Bottom line kids are just like adults, if they getting paid half ass amounts they gonna do half ass jobs..

Also if the environment is overfriendly and casual, that's also a problem, as at a job peeps are there to work not socialize.. Cut that casual, overfriendly environment out and raise the pay and you should be good..

[~y~]

Yahmi, you sound like ur *coo coo* for cocoa puffs..




r* Whatever helps you sleep at night TonyG ... Seriously, if you'd pay attention at work (if you have a job or ever had a job)... if you're good to ppl they will work for you - pay is negligible because only someone who is coocoo will work under terrible conditions because they pay is good. Sell yaself short if you want to, but I think I deserve to be treated like a human being regardless the pay.

[TONY Gigolo]

r* Whatever helps you sleep at night TonyG ... Seriously, if you'd pay attention at work (if you have a job or ever had a job)... if you're good to ppl they will work for you - pay is negligible because only someone who is coocoo will work under terrible conditions because they pay is good. Sell yaself short if you want to, but I think I deserve to be treated like a human being regardless the pay.


lol, you're so silly Yahmi.. Now all of sudden it's "if your good to ppl they will work for you"? On my way to this post I read a post about you having anger management problems, along with problems on getting people to do their jobs.. having memory problems also?

Peep:



"For those in management, could you please provide me with some tips on how to deal with people without snapping?

Don't get me wrong ... I like my new job because it's different from my old job and I need the experience, but the growing pangs are hard. I am eager to get to the next phase of it. I working my way to a corner office and a team of 4 - 10 ppl or self employment, whichever is most lucrative first. Perhaps both? lol Anyway ....

I know with every job, there are always some things you have to deal or ignore. But people, people are a trip! Sometimes I just want to tell ppl "WTF is wrong with you?" or "Did you actually think before doing what you did or saying what you said?"

"I have people coming up to me saying "I was an assistant manager at a retail store and yada yada..." aka "I should have your job." or "I can do your job." And these are the very same ppl who you have to track down because they are not where they are suppose to be .... doing their damn job. These are the very same ppl who need an attitude adjustment in order to deal with the BS ppl like themselves put out."

"Ppl who get a step up in position renegading like they run the WHOLE company. That's right, like they cut the checks. They know the whole works of the business all in 2 months of service. I have to filter my thoughts too much and the filtering is more work than the work itself. Someone is going to catch me on a ripe day and I just may lose my job. Patience is a virtue that I am constantly working on."

"I need to know how to deal with other people's ca ca otherwise, I'm going to start Trumping ppl left and right."

"Why can't ppl just go to work, do their damn job and go home? I could give two turds if you like your job or if so and so don't know what they are doing"

"I really hate babysitting ADULTS. My job title should be, Day/NightCare provider for 18+ year olds because that's exactly what I do"



Sounds like you're the last person that should speak on how to motivate people to work cause from that post you don't have a clue..



"pay is negligible because only someone who is coocoo will work under terrible conditions because they pay is good."



Sounds like you working under terrible conditions (stressful environment) that has you on the verge of "snapping" and doing something crazy, or even worst, catch a stomach ulcur.. so why you there? "coocoo"? We all know why you there for the *money* cause if the pay wasn't right, or if there wasn't a pot of gold at the end of that job rainbow (better paying position) you wouldn't be there. So just keep it real..

Anybody will work a sanitation job (which maybe the worst job to do)
if the money is right..



"if you'd pay attention at work (if you have a job or ever had a job)...


uh huh, I had my first job at about 11 or 12, many years later and many other jobs, I can mos def say if you did half the work I did throughout my life so far you would probably drop dead, lol..

Currently I work for self, I make all the decisions and do the work of 5 different people, and I cut the checks to keep the business running smoothly, so when I speak, Im talking from experience..

so yeah, smack the side of ya head Yahmi and get ya mind right.. Also some anger management classes may do you some good before you hurt yaself...

[~y~]

lol, you're so silly Yahmi.. Now all of sudden it's "if your good to ppl they will work for you"? On my way to this post I read a post about you having anger management problems, along with problems on getting people to do their jobs.. having memory problems also?


*sigh* It's so simple, yet you wish to complicate things.

Yes, I deal with ppl everyday without snapping doesn't mean I don't want to snap. Doesn't mean that from time to time I don't get frustrated with the things they do or even I do. I'm passionate yet so controlled sometimes I just got to let it go. I often vent about things on this forum. Wash your hands lately? I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean. I know from my work experiences that if you are good with ppl to ppl, they will work for you and with you ... that's whether you are self employed or employed with a global corporation.

[TONY Gigolo]

*sigh* It's so simple, yet you wish to complicate things.

Yes, I deal with ppl everyday without snapping doesn't mean I don't want to snap. Doesn't mean that from time to time I don't get frustrated with the things they do or even I do. I'm passionate yet so controlled sometimes I just got to let it go. I often vent about things on this forum. Wash your hands lately? I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean. I know from my work experiences that if you are good with ppl to ppl, they will work for you and with you ... that's whether you are self employed or employed with a global corporation.


Yahmi, Yahmi, Yahmi, nothing I stated is complicated, you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking..

"I know from my work experiences that if you are good with ppl to ppl, they will work for you and with you"

Yeah but you aren't being good to people when you think negative things about them, talk down to them or just assume the worst about them.. As was stated in my last post..

"Wash your hands lately? I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean."

Again you assuming the worst.. Whether I wash my hands or not shouldn't be any of ur concerns, but you should automatically assume I would, just like I would of you.. I doubt ur also the bathroom attendent at ur job, so I think its very odd of you to wait around in the bathroom just to see who's washing their hands and who isn't, or keeping a mental note of who washes hands and who doesn't everytime ur in the bathroom.. As long as your hands are clean thats all you need to be concern with.. Unless it's ur job to be concerned..

[~y~]

Yahmi, Yahmi, Yahmi, nothing I stated is complicated, you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking..

"I know from my work experiences that if you are good with ppl to ppl, they will work for you and with you"

Yeah but you aren't being good to people when you think negative things about them, talk down to them or just assume the worst about them.. As was stated in my last post..

"Wash your hands lately? I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean."

Again you assuming the worst.. Whether I wash my hands or not shouldn't be any of ur concerns, but you should automatically assume I would, just like I would of you.. I doubt ur also the bathroom attendent at ur job, so I think its very odd of you to wait around in the bathroom just to see who's washing their hands and who isn't, or keeping a mental note of who washes hands and who doesn't everytime ur in the bathroom.. As long as your hands are clean thats all you need to be concern with.. Unless it's ur job to be concerned..


I didn't assume anything in that vent thread. Those were actions I've heard and seen myself. The last time I checked, one cannot assume an action witnessed or experienced, only the intentions behind that action. If you dye your hair, I can't assume you dyed your hair because it's a fact that's what you did. I can only assume why you dyed your hair. What I think and what I do are two different things. People don't know what I think until I either tell them or project those thoughts into action. No matter what I think, or how frustrated I get, I treat ppl how I want to be treated. I got teams of ppl I work with who will testify to that. Again, I'm speaking from, I repeat, my working experiences; things I've seen, heard myself in my working experiences.

You are playing on words and you're doing a terrible job at it. See, dealing with ppl everyday, I can tell when someone is handing me a load of BS. Talking about assuming and assumptions ... No offense but you are doing alot of ASSuming about ~yahmi~. What is your problem? What's really good with TonyG? Did I hurt your feelings or something? I feel as though you are intentionally taking shots at me for God know what. Tell me here or in a PM. Just don't go around with a chip on your shoulder.

[TONY Gigolo]

I didn't assume anything in that vent thread. Those were actions I've heard and seen myself. The last time I checked, one cannot assume an action witnessed or experienced, only the intentions behind that action. If you dye your hair, I can't assume you dyed your hair because it's a fact that's what you did. I can only assume why you dyed your hair. What I think and what I do are two different things. People don't know what I think until I either tell them or project those thoughts into action. No matter what I think, or how frustrated I get, I treat ppl how I want to be treated. I got teams of ppl I work with who will testify to that. Again, I'm speaking from, I repeat, my working experiences; things I've seen, heard myself in my working experiences.

You are playing on words and you're doing a terrible job at it. See, dealing with ppl everyday, I can tell when someone is handing me a load of BS. Talking about assuming and assumptions ... No offense but you are doing alot of ASSuming about ~yahmi~. What is your problem? What's really good with TonyG? Did I hurt your feelings or something? I feel as though you are intentionally taking shots at me for God know what. Tell me here or in a PM. Just don't go around with a chip on your shoulder.


Yahmi how about you put ur thinking cap on and concentrate on what I stated.. Anything I stated about you was backed up by facts that you confirmed in ur rant post or that was posted in this post, so no assumptions were being made on my part, ur the only ASSumption making person in this post.

Let me refresh ur memory

Peep:

1. "I have people coming up to me saying "I was an assistant manager at a retail store and yada yada..." *aka "I should have your job.*" *or "I can do your job*." <<< you can't read minds, so what are you doing here in this situation? *Assuming* the worst about these people..

2. "Seriously, if you'd pay attention at work (if you have a job or ever had a job).." <<< alot of *Assumptions* was made here, which were all proven to be incorrect after the facts were stated..

3. "Wash your hands lately?" I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean." << Just because you spotted a few people at work not washing their hands after using the rest room, shouldn't lead you to *assume* I also do the same by asking me if I washed my hands lately..

"I can't assume you dyed your hair because it's a fact that's what you did. I can only assume why you dyed your hair."

I keep my head bald, so you shouldn't be assuming anything about hair I don't have..

"What is your problem?"

what do you think my problem is Yahmi?

Here's what I think ur problem is

"you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.."

Nothing more or less..

[~y~]

Yahmi how about you put ur thinking cap on and concentrate on what I stated.. Anything I stated about you was backed up by facts that you confirmed in ur rant post or that was posted in this post, so no assumptions were being made on my part, ur the only ASSumption making person in this post.

Let me refresh ur memory


No need to refresh my memory ... you're still reaching to prove something which you obviously don't understand where I was coming from in that vent thread.


what do you think my problem is Yahmi?

I don't know and I'm definitely not going to make any assumptions. Do you have a problem with me? That's all I asked to avoid, you know, making an assumption about you.

Here's what I think ur problem is yada yada yada

There you go ASSuming again. No you don't know me well enough.

You can keep at it, but what's going to happen is that you're going to get caught up since you obviously know little about me. My work speaks for itself and I'm speaking from (again) myexperiences. I know the challenges when it comes to motivating ppl from a large variety of backgrounds and ages since I do it on a daily basis at work. You on the other hand, you're just babbling conjectures based off some discontent of me. As I've said before, if I offended you, I now sincerely apologize, but please don't make a public display of your discontent of me based off half-assed assumptions. Please don't do it friend. It's really not a good look.

Oh yeah and TonyG ... I never said you dyed your hair. It was an example totally disassociated with you or what you do. I guess I should have worded it "If one dyes his/her hair ....".

[Bre]

I respect Yahmi´s gangsta.

[TONY Gigolo]

No need to refresh my memory ... you're still reaching to prove something which you obviously don't understand where I was coming from in that vent thread.



I don't know and I'm definitely not going to make any assumptions. Do you have a problem with me? That's all I asked to avoid, you know, making an assumption about you.



There you go ASSuming again. No you don't know me well enough.

You can keep at it, but what's going to happen is that you're going to get caught up since you obviously know little about me. My work speaks for itself and I'm speaking from (again) myexperiences. I know the challenges when it comes to motivating ppl from a large variety of backgrounds and ages since I do it on a daily basis at work. You on the other hand, you're just babbling conjectures based off some discontent of me. As I've said before, if I offended you, I now sincerely apologize, but please don't make a public display of your discontent of me based off half-assed assumptions. Please don't do it friend. It's really not a good look.

Oh yeah and TonyG ... I never said you dyed your hair. It was an example totally disassociated with you or what you do. I guess I should have worded it "If one dyes his/her hair ....".


"No need to refresh my memory ... you're still reaching to prove something which you obviously don't understand where I was coming from in that vent thread."

Oh yes there is much need to refresh your memory cause ur acting like you don't see the facts and true statements smacking you upside your head. So I'll keep copying and pasting the facts until you finally get it and see the "error in your ways and thinking".. No hiding from the facts Yahmi, so trying to change the subject/issue at hand isn’t gonna help you wiggle out of being a responsible adult.. Dealing with these facts may hurt your pride and feelings, but when its all over it will make you a better person. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to becoming a better person. Choosing to ignore facts that confirm you have a problem is only going to hurt you in the long run.

“Do you have a problem with me?”

Now since you already ask me this question where I clearly explained, what I think ur problem is, and you forgot.. so yes ur gonna need ur "memory refreshed" *again*

“Here's what I think ur problem is

you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.."

Nothing more or less.”

This stated problem of yours was never an assumption as it was based on statements you made, now a few post later all you did was confirm without a shadow of a doubt, that, that’s exactly what your problem is, due to the facts that post after post after post you don’t want to acknowledge, assuming negative things about people, before you have facts to back up those negative thoughts is an “error in ur ways and thinking”

So lets go over this again nice and slow, so you can clearly see where you were assuming negative things:

"I have people coming up to me saying "I was an assistant manager at a retail store and yada yada..." *aka "I should have your job.*" *or "I can do your job*."?

Now if you would of had ur "thinking cap" on you would clearly see that ur assuming these people want ur job, you can't read minds, so how do you know they want ur job, so yes ur assuming the worst which is an “error in ur ways and thinking” "think Yahmi, think"

"Seriously, if you'd pay attention at work (if you have a job or ever had a job)"

If you had on ur thinking cap you would see you were assuming things in this statement, you had no facts or any proof to back up these assumptions, you ASSuming a lot of things about me and all of it was incorrect so yes you were assuming again.. You automatically thought the worst about me, by thinking I either had no job, and if I did have a job I don’t pay attention at work, so yes you were thinking the worst before you had any facts, which is an “error in ur ways and thinking”
“think Yahmi think”

"Wash your hands lately?" I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean."

Here you spot a few people at work not washing their hands, and then you ask me if "I wash my hands lately" as if I was one of these people at your job, which is mos def not the case, but like you did above in those other statements you automatically assumed the worst without having any facts to back up that kind of thinking, which is an “error in ur ways and thinking” "think Yahmi think"

Now try and remember the quotes I just posted showing where you were assuming things and while you read what I think ur problem is *again*

"you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.." "nothing more or less"

Now as stated above we went over the statements you made where you were assuming negative things about people without having facts to back up those statements, and we also see where post after post after post you chose to ignore these facts that were posted that clearly shows you were assuming negative things about people, so it only confirms one thing, like I previously stated

“you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.."

"nothing more ot less"

The facts are here for you to accept the error in ur ways and thinking and make a conscience decision to fix ur mind state/get ur mind right Yahmi, or you can keep acting like you don’t see the facts like you have been doing post after post, after post.. which means you will continue confirming and reconfirming the fact that “you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking"..

You having this problem isn’t an assumption baby doll, it’s all facts, so act like an adult and deal with it..

[~y~]

One thing I know for sure ... you're hurt. I hurt your feelings and you are not man enough to admit it to me even in PM. Just tell me TonyG ... it doesn't have to be this way. Really... don't simp out this way. You're losing. If you're not hurt then stop replying damn ... is it that hard?

*will one of TonyG's boys come save him ... please*

For once and for all TonyG if you actually think that I told anyone what I thought in that vent thread ... you are disappointing me. Seriously, my opinion of you has dropped drastically. I can even take your misogynic ways, most men are misogynic just a little bit. That's doesn't faze me one bit. What annoys the shit out me is you making an ass out of yourself trying to tell me about me. Straight up bitch move from you since I know you don't even know me and I know you're not psychic. It's like you don't have anything else to pull out of your ass so you are simply picking your dinlgeberries repeating the same baseless crap over and over and over again. MikeEsco's clone did a thread a few years back on how to effectively wipe your ass. Perhaps you should spend more time looking for that thread as oppose to writing long dissertations about me. It's just becoming annoying. 4 words TonyG ... You are not ready!

I've tried several times to abdicate and make peace but you .... smh. You are taking this way too personally. Now you can write an essay from here on out, and I'm going to let it go.

[TONY Gigolo]

lol, that was cute and sad at the same time... Instead of acting like an big baby, kicking and screaming, getting overly emotional and reduced to only knowing how to respond with insults.. Try acting like an adult by sticking to the issue at hand Yahmi? Cause nothing you stated is based on facts, and if you have any facts backing up those statement, state them, and I will address them..

You should know by now I only deal with the facts, cause everything else is nothing but *assumptions* get ur mind right Yahmi and get up on my level with some facts.. And oh yeah since you need ur *memory refresh* on what the issue at hand is


Peep:

"No need to refresh my memory ... you're still reaching to prove something which you obviously don't understand where I was coming from in that vent thread."

Oh yes there is much need to refresh your memory cause ur acting like you don't see the facts and true statements smacking you upside your head. So I'll keep copying and pasting the facts until you finally get it and see the "error in your ways and thinking".. No hiding from the facts Yahmi, so trying to change the subject/issue at hand isn’t gonna help you wiggle out of being a responsible adult.. Dealing with these facts may hurt your pride and feelings, but when its all over it will make you a better person. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to becoming a better person. Choosing to ignore facts that confirm you have a problem is only going to hurt you in the long run.

“Do you have a problem with me?”

Now since you already ask me this question where I clearly explained, what I think ur problem is, and you forgot.. so yes ur gonna need ur "memory refreshed" *again*

“Here's what I think ur problem is

you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.."

Nothing more or less.”

This stated problem of yours was never an assumption as it was based on statements you made, now a few post later all you did was confirm without a shadow of a doubt, that, that’s exactly what your problem is, due to the facts that post after post after post you don’t want to acknowledge, assuming negative things about people, before you have facts to back up those negative thoughts is an “error in ur ways and thinking”

So lets go over this again nice and slow, so you can clearly see where you were assuming negative things:

"I have people coming up to me saying "I was an assistant manager at a retail store and yada yada..." *aka "I should have your job.*" *or "I can do your job*."?

Now if you would of had ur "thinking cap" on you would clearly see that ur assuming these people want ur job, you can't read minds, so how do you know they want ur job, so yes ur assuming the worst which is an “error in ur ways and thinking” "think Yahmi, think"

"Seriously, if you'd pay attention at work (if you have a job or ever had a job)"

If you had on ur thinking cap you would see you were assuming things in this statement, you had no facts or any proof to back up these assumptions, you ASSuming a lot of things about me and all of it was incorrect so yes you were assuming again.. You automatically thought the worst about me, by thinking I either had no job, and if I did have a job I don’t pay attention at work, so yes you were thinking the worst before you had any facts, which is an “error in ur ways and thinking”
“think Yahmi think”

"Wash your hands lately?" I have yet to snap on someone because they didn't wash their hands after using the restroom. I just keep mine clean."

Here you spot a few people at work not washing their hands, and then you ask me if "I wash my hands lately" as if I was one of these people at your job, which is mos def not the case, but like you did above in those other statements you automatically assumed the worst without having any facts to back up that kind of thinking, which is an “error in ur ways and thinking” "think Yahmi think"

Now try and remember the quotes I just posted showing where you were assuming things and while you read what I think ur problem is *again*

"you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.." "nothing more or less"

Now as stated above we went over the statements you made where you were assuming negative things about people without having facts to back up those statements, and we also see where post after post after post you chose to ignore these facts that were posted that clearly shows you were assuming negative things about people, so it only confirms one thing, like I previously stated

“you just seem like you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking.."

"nothing more ot less"

The facts are here for you to accept the error in ur ways and thinking and make a conscience decision to fix ur mind state/get ur mind right Yahmi, or you can keep acting like you don’t see the facts like you have been doing post after post, after post.. which means you will continue confirming and reconfirming the fact that “you have a problem with excepting the error of your ways and thinking"..

You having this problem isn’t an assumption baby doll, it’s all facts, so act like an adult and deal with it..