...a debate about the begining and the end...

[vexed less]

...this a little sumin that the kid T-rade wanted me to post for him....



T-Rade:
"With all our religious heads and scientific heads on here, it would be an interesting debate to see what people think about our beginning and end...

I have a feeling alot of people on here will say they believe what's provable and therefore say the believe in big bang. But Big bang can't be proven completely.

Me, personally, I believe in the big bang, it just seems the most reasonable to me, who created the big bang tho is a mystery to me, seems a bit unbelievable that it just happendout of the dark, you know? But also a "god" is to irrational for me. So I'm blank on that.

Regarding the ending, I'm not sure neither... The scientific explanations about The big Crush and The Big Rip seems most likely to me, but I am not sure..."



...all those with any religious or scientific theories on this topic are encouraged to join in...

[T-rade]

Thanks Vexed

[vexed less]

T ima have to stay out of this.... i really dont try dwell on this question coz it appears to be unanswerable....

imo there are more than just this physical reality, so with that bein said id say this reality developed from another reality.... i cant answer how though....

[(--LazerScope-->>]

Well, as far as what I personally believe, I think it's only rational to TEND TOWARD a theory of a Big Bang type phenomena occurring to explain the creation of the Universe rather than that of an 'invisible being' i.e. "God". They're both theories, really. Just one theory is more plausible than the other.

[Sosa]

The big bang is more plausible than more people think it is...there is scientific data that point to it....if galaxies are moving away from each other and the universe is expanding, then if we turn back the clock there had to be a time when the universe was hotter and denser....this isn't something scienting just make up...

[Sosa]

Reading the creation story in the Torah (genesis) people have to understand that its just using imagery and figurative language, no one was actually present during creation writing down how it happened while it was happening..

[JDP]

What is the beginning? what is meant by saying "beginning" what is meant by saying "ending". Is it essential to have a beginning and ending? for to have a beginning there must be something before of what has began, to have an ending there has to be a closure on what had begun. To further dwell on the topic, these concepts because thats what they really are, they are conditional, one depending on the other to exist. There is no beginning without an ending, and vice. These concepts only exist through existence where impermance is guranteed. That is all i have to offer for now.

- JDP

[~y~]

One of my favorite topics

I don't think that that the universe began with a bang be it little or small. From what I recall, the Big Bang assumes there was nothing, not even time before it's occurrence. Just by observing our environment, there is little to proof that tells us that anything comes from nothing including time. If this did happen, then it would have been orchestrated by someone or something which would then kill the Big Bang premise. Because of this, I have no choice to rely on faith on how we began and surely how it will end.

Besides I've never seen anything from any bang that resulted in anything as beautiful construction of our solar system, not to mention our own unique body structures such as DNA.

** There was an article posted recently on the internets that provides what is being hailed as an explanation for the Theory of Everything. I haven't read it, but I'm sure it's extremely complicated because the mathematics used took 120 years to fully understand by mathematicians/physicists.

[T-rade]

@ ~y~ CERN (a science lab in europe) is trying to make send to neutron particles (I think it is), a +particle and a -particle, resulting an annihalition of both since antimatter and matter is just like + and - ofcourse, but they hope that by the speed they send them around with something close to the speed of light in the hopes that when they hit each other the crash will be so big that they do not annihalate each other, but make a "small" big bang (and through that maybe explain what made big bang happen), just like described almost in Angels And Demons...

The big bang is more plausible than more people think it is...there is scientific data that point to it....if galaxies are moving away from each other and the universe is expanding, then if we turn back the clock there had to be a time when the universe was hotter and denser....this isn't something scienting just make up...

They can get like 10 lifted in -48 (i think that's what it's called) of a second close to Big Bang, and that's when Neutron and Electrons started to be created... The mathematic and scientific way to find out how old the universe is by using something called "The Hubble Constant". v=H*r with H being the Hubble constant (and around 21,7 kilometers per second) and scientist isn't certain just what it is, but it's close to that number, and therefore they aren't really sure about when the big bang where.