...abortion...??

[vexed less]

...this issue divides the opinions of people usually into one of the following groups; pro-life ....or pro-choice.

...pro-life is simply the opinion that a fetus is a life....and ultimately abortion is murder.
...pro-choice is simply the opinion that a female should have the final say in the issue seeing it is her body that the baby is to be delivered through.

...any opinions or comments?

[Don Julio]

uh, wow, this is a touchy subject.

I personally am against it. However, due to a situation over the summer, I supported my ex using the morning after pill, which is also something I really don't believe in, but it was just a matter of convenience. To be honest, I am pro-life to the fullest and I regret ever endorsing that type of behavior in my relationships.

[vexed less]

^^^i feel the same... i dont approve my girl of using them pills neither
...but then that leads to questions that suggest that alternate contraceptives such as rubbers also prevent life...

any opinion about that patron??

[Don Julio]

Yeah, I don't care for any contraception. I think it's simple, if I want to have sex, I will have to take the risk of having children. I don't really believe in God, but I do believe in karma and interrupting nature. In the future, I won;t have sex with someone unless I am willing for them to be my baby's mother, bottom line.

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I view abortion as a choice a person has to make (along with the father) to determine whether the life they create will reach the point where it is birthed. I am against murder, capital punishment, but abortion to me is different. For me the life begins once it is born. I kind of hold on to the notion that before three months it is just a possibility of a viable human life. I wish I viewed it differently but can't. To me abortion is more about the choice to continue life than the extermination of life.

The pill, rubbers, implants they are all the same. I don't agree with Patron about having sex unprotected sex with a girl unless he is willing for them to be his babies momma. Bringing kids in this world should at least come from two people committed to each other and the family concept. Bringing a child in this world isn't something that should be done lightly.

[Don Julio]

Bringing a child in this world isn't something that should be done lightly.

I agree with this statement entirely. That is the main reason I don't take who I have sex with lightly... I figure if I am not ready to be a dad, I can abstain...

[T-rade]

Honestly, I am totally blank on this subject the pro's and con's weighs equally much for me

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

It is a difficult issues to wrap your brains around.




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[Patricia]

I think it's something you shouldn't really have strong feelings about, until you've been put in the position where it's a choice. Then, you really know how you feel.

I believe that after a certain period of time, the fetus is a human life that just has not been born yet. And that is murder.

The morning after pill and other forms of contraception are necessary. Sex feels good. People aren't going to abstain, just because they could become pregnant when there are things to prevent it from happening. To even suggest otherwise is Utopian and unrealistic.

I honestly haven't been put into the situation where i've had to make the choice.. so I don't judge people who have had abortions.

The one part of abortion that I don't understand is how people could possibly think it's only a woman's decision. The man should have just as much say in it as the woman does.

I don't care if the woman is the one who has to carry the child. They both made it. Women who say "it's my body" need to be punched in the throat.

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

^^^^exactly. wow, you made this thread deep and extra sexy, lol.

[Don Julio]

^^^^exactly. wow, you made this thread deep and extra sexy, lol.

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[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I am glad to see we concur with my assessment.



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[~y~]

I can't judge anyone. I'm against abortions, but I'm definitely pro-choice. It's up to the parents to choose whether to have the baby or abort.

[LIFTED]

I'm for it

[Sosa]

For those of you who are pro-life....Is it acceptable (or ethical) to abort if:
A)The woman was raped
B)The pregnancy will be dangerous and might cause the mothers death
C)The pregnancy might cause the newborn to die anyway

[Logic]

Maaaaan, fuck that.

If its before a month or two its just slime.

[vexed less]

For those of you who are pro-life....Is it acceptable (or ethical) to abort if:
A)The woman was raped
B)The pregnancy will be dangerous and might cause the mothers death
C)The pregnancy might cause the newborn to die anyway

i knew this was to come.... and its examples like these that challenge people to actually think about what they are arguing for.

i mean the situations u stated would make it difficult to be pro-life on... so i guess its an appropraite time to run off what patti suggested and say that seein this world isnt perfect it would be unrealistic and not very sensible to try maintain a totally pro-life view.

...for those sayin in the early stages of birth a fetus is just some 'slime', when does a so called lump of cells become classified as human life....???
i mean is there an actuall point where u can say "ohh look now it has eyes... that must mean its alive, cant abort now."....???

[Nikola Tesla]

For those of you who are pro-life....Is it acceptable (or ethical) to abort if:
A)The woman was raped
B)The pregnancy will be dangerous and might cause the mothers death
C)The pregnancy might cause the newborn to die anyway

A.........New life!!!!
B...........If falls on the mother and father of that child....
C..........Keyword "might" NEW LIFE

abortion is murder simple and plan

my cuz killed his son/or little girl because him and another girl got high and had sex

they weren't ready to be parents so they KILLED the child

Thats a choice he made

if you wanna say abortion is cool....thats fine

but don't act like its not murder because thats what it is

[vexed less]

^^i feel the same way...but say ya girl decides to take some sort of pill as soon as she finds out she is pregnant (...say one month)... do u still feel that is murder?

if the fetus is merely a small bunch of undeveloped cells than does that make it murder??
if so sperm are cells....is ejactulating a form of murder?? ...they are potential humans.

[Sosa]

A.........New life!!!!
B...........If falls on the mother and father of that child....
C..........Keyword "might" NEW LIFE

abortion is murder simple and plan

my cuz killed his son/or little girl because him and another girl got high and had sex

they weren't ready to be parents so they KILLED the child

Thats a choice he made

if you wanna say abortion is cool....thats fine

but don't act like its not murder because thats what it is

I'm asking if it is ethical.....it's obviously a choice that one has to make, but is it an ethical choice? Is it murder if your saving the mother's life? is it murder if that child is going to die a horrible death when born?

[Sosa]

I dont think abortion falls into murder...this is how murder is defined:

Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought by another. Murder is generally distinguished from other forms of homicide by the elements of malice aforethought and the lack of lawful justification

[vampire xtc]

The one part of abortion that I don't understand is how people could possibly think it's only a woman's decision. The man should have just as much say in it as the woman does.

I don't care if the woman is the one who has to carry the child. They both made it. Women who say "it's my body" need to be punched in the throat.


^^^word unfortunately thats not the case

women ALWAYS use it as a trap


im all for abortion

i dont wanna hear anyone say "abortion is murder"

yet they eat meat or eat eggs especially

i think its ironic how with human life its 'murder" with animal life its not even thought about


eggs are chicken embryo's and we kill and eat them daily billions of people do this even "pro life" people


not an issue


shits dumb



being "pro life" is hilarious to me


if you pregnant pro lifers are all for it "keep the kid!!!"


oce the kid is born

'um you gave birth? ok fuck off now whos next"

that shit right there defeats the name "pro life" lol


i think its funny how peple feel however they feel which in itself is just fine

BUT they FORCE their views onto others


shit makes no sense to me



if i worship a banister thats up to me


but how am i gunna force it and try to make you worship a banister also?? lol



also keep it real everyoe

how many times per week do you see an unfit mother with kids??


better yet


how many do you know???


people make mistakes im not sayin cuxz of abortion go crazy make mistake nah i think havin a EZpass for the abortion clinic is OD but accidents and mistakes DO happen

[Galanz]

I believe in choice


but theres a point of no return


if your belly is far out that you can't see your toes anymore, then you need to keep that child

[Sosa]

To the pro-lifers....if you or your partner was pregnant and the pregnancy would endanger your life or your partners (whoever has the child) would you take those chances or save your (or partners) life by getting an abortion?

[birdman87]

i believe its a woman choice.

[vexed less]

To the pro-lifers....if you or your partner was pregnant and the pregnancy would endanger your life or your partners (whoever has the child) would you take those chances or save your (or partners) life by getting an abortion?

^^i aint really pro-life... but in that situation i guess it would be a partnered disicion...if the wife is cool to give it a chance n put her life at risk then of course id agree....
...if she dont want to i make sure she is totally aware of what will happen...the baby will be gone... it will have a psychological effect on her...n so forth...

but like i said i really aint pro-life....