Single Race Colleges

[KRUMB]

What is y'alls take on this , I realise that there is racial discrimination as far as getting into certain colleges , but if a College was to openly say that only white people could go there , would it be fair because there is African American colleges ? Or would that be considered racist ? Explain ...

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

check out this out. people have a huge misunderstanding about historical black colleges and universities.

To many, historically black colleges are all black. Not so. Although most black colleges have a majority of black students, not all do, and virtually all have non-black students. Approximately 17-18% of the students in black colleges are white and another 13% are foreign. Nor are faculty at the black college all black. A third or more of most black college faculty members are non-black. In fact, the historically black colleges have always been open to whites when the law allowed. Also, “historically black” is different from “predominantly black” and predominantly black is different from an institution having a “plurality” of black students. In most predominantly black colleges, more than 50 percent of the students are black. An institution may be neither historically nor predominantly black but may have a plurality of black students.

The concept of the black college, however, goes beyond the racial composition of its student body and faculty. It is a concept that is rooted in history. To understand the history of the black college, it may be useful to consider public policy as it has passed through five major stages with respect to the education of blacks.

1. Prohibition
Prior to the Civil War, public policy in the South prohibited the education of blacks. In certain northern states, abolitionists such as the Quakers established institutions to educate free blacks or runaway slaves. Cheyney University (founded in 1837), Lincoln University (founded in 1854) in Pennsylvania, and Wilberforce University in Ohio (founded in 1856) count themselves among the first historically black colleges.

2. Encouragement
The second period (1865-1896) was one of federal encouragement of black educational institutions. This period included the end of the Civil War until the Plessey vs. Ferguson decision in 1896, in which the Supreme Court constitutionally condoned segregation. It was also a period which saw the establishment of many historically black institutions, both public and private, with the encouragement and support of the federal government. Most of the historically black colleges that exist today trace their roots to this period.

3. Segregation
The third period (1896-1954) was initially one of enforced segregation in the education of blacks. Legally, those attending black colleges were to have been accorded equal education, though in a separate environment. In practice, the black colleges were consistently deprived of equal educational resources. When it appeared in the 1940s that the courts would rule against this blatant unconstitutional inequality, states desperately sought to make black colleges equal—to keep blacks out of white universities.

4. Desegregation
In 1954, the Supreme Court ruled in Brown vs. Board of Education that legally segregated schools were inherently unequal. However, the dismantling of this dual system was not made with any meaningful efforts until the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. With encouragement from the U.S. Office for Civil Rights, states adopted a variety of techniques to increase the enrollment of black students at white institutions and white students at historically black colleges. There was a prevailing belief that preserving a black identity would perpetuate the segregation of blacks and whites. However, the potential that black colleges would be dismantled by desegregation was generally overlooked or ignored—although some considered it with alarm.

5. Enhancement
A number of events occurred in the late ‘70s and ‘80s to shift public policy from that of racial neutrality to that of an initial acceptance, tolerance, and finally encouragement of black colleges as racially identifiable and part of the pluralistic system of higher education. Instead of disproportionately desegregating historically black colleges, they were to be enhanced. With the persistent under-representation of blacks in most managerial, policy-making, and professional positions—all of which required a college education—and demonstrable proof that the black colleges were contributing out of proportion to their numbers to increasing the flow of educated blacks going into the mainstream of society, the historically black colleges were increasingly recognized as positive instruments for integrating the broader society. Black colleges were also increasingly being appreciated as havens for able students who were financially in need and rejected elsewhere. Finally, and most importantly, positions taken by the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal government reinforced the acceptability of black identifiability. The Supreme Court declared that the use of race-specific remedies to address the effects of past legally-enforced segregation was constitutional. Thus, it became legal to target assistance to the historically black colleges.

Today, historically black colleges are thriving. There are approximately 106 Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs), which are defined by the White House Initiative on HBCUs as “Those institutions of postsecondary education that were originally founded, or whose antecedents were originally founded, for the purpose of providing education opportunities for individuals of the Negro or colored race, and which continue to have as one of the primary purposes the provision of postsecondary opportunities for Black Americans.” The 106 HBCUs are located in 20 states, the District of Columbia, and the Virgin Islands. These institutions include accredited two- and four-year as well as graduate and professional institutions.


So you see, it is like non african americans can not attend. That would be racist.



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[KRUMB]

I'm still in the midst of reading the entire study , but I can honestly say i've learned more from the first paragraph that you posted then I thought I knew before . I had always kind of thought well damn if say Harvard for example came out and was like "we're a white college only" that would cause quite a ruckus with civil rights groups , but now that I realise that just because its a "black" college doesn't mean non - blacks can go there it completely changes my stance .

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

that's why I'm here.



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[SCIENTIZT]

I feel where you're coming from..I think the difference is the African American colleges were founded by African Americans..they cannot exclude anyone from attending if they qualify and apply..I could be wrong though..

In addition, I believe most people would rather be in a school with people of their own race..same reason people move to the neighborhoods they move to..there's a idea of comfort in it somewhere...and this is not for all people , just most..

[PharaohTheGod]

i go to an all black college and i cant stand it. i need diversity

[birdman87]

i go to an all black college and i cant stand it. i need diversity

Complete opposite i love my college and the people that surrounds me i hate when people say there is no diversity at all black college because then your suggesting that every black person is the same.

And there are all type of races at my school not that many but Asian,Latinos and whites do go there also black colleges are not better for education but much cheaper.

But i understand thread starters point but hbcu were created at a time when blacks couldn't goto college so why would there be a need for an all white college when there has never been a time when a white person couldn't go to college because of there skin color.

[ST1llmatic]

excluding any body from any institution of learning on the basis of race, ethnicity, or nationality would be completely fucking retarded.