5 Percenters/Nation Of Gods and Earths

[Louis]

Anyone had first hand experience of this religion? Is it still around?


Anyone got any interesting knowledge about it, opinions?

[Kingasiatic]

Itz not a religion,& livez 4-forever,Peace!!

[Lord Almighty]

Itz not a religion,& livez 4-forever,Peace!!

Exactly!

As King said, it's not a religion, it's a way of life. It never was a fad that fades with time...it lives for eternity.

Peace

[Sosa]

I have always been interested in learning about these teachings....not just reading about it or hearing about it but going into the heart of the knowledge and experiencing it first hand...

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I'm lost about this. Can somebody explain it to me?

[TONY Gigolo]

Lord J of the Brand Nubians, dropped a 5% album a year ago, was pretty, good, should check for it..

Here's two tracks from that album, basically a crash course on what the 5% percent nation is all about, history of their leader and his teachings

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=98VMDQH7
Greatest story never told

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5SHJS1IM
Supreme Mathematics

[DaSun]

It's deprived from the Nation of Islam which is deprived from Islam, which rejects them.

[venge_one]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 5% mean :

5% population = Black God

10% pop = white devil

85% pop = dumb deaf and blind

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

Nation of Gods & Earths (also called the 5 Percent-Nation) started in Harlem 1964 by Clarence 13X.

Clarence 13X was a Korean War vet. He served as a Private First Class between October 1952 and October 1954, receiving a Bronze Service Star, Korean Service Medal, Presidential Unit Citation, and a United Nations Service Medal, and served until 1960 in the United States Army Reserve.

Clarence 13X was also a member of the Nation of Islam and attended NOI Temple Number Seven in Harlem, New York, where Malcolm X was a minister from 1960 to 1963. Different stories have circulated as to why Clarence 13X left Nation of Islam, some have said Clarence refusing to give up gambling; others have him questioning the unique divinity of Wallace Fard Muhammad, whom the NOI believed was the True and Living God, or questioning his position due to Fard allegedly being part-Caucasian. The story, regardless of version, states that Clarence was then disciplined by the NOI and excommunicated in 1963. This expulsion by the NOI led Clarence 13X to shed his Black Muslim name, and adopt the name "Allah", proclaiming himself to be God. He then began to teach others his views based on his own interpretation of NOI teachings. He found success beginning in late 1964 with the disenfranchised youth on the streets of Harlem.

The members of the Nation of Gods and Earths (NGE) view themselves (Black men of their Nation) as their own God (both individually and collectively the Original Man). Five Percenters sometimes refer to themselves as scientists, implying their search for knowledge and proof, and not beliefs in theories.

The teachings of the Nation of Gods and Earths are passed on through oral tradition, similar to the griots of west Africa.

The advancement of a Five Percenter is based on his or her memorization, recitation, comprehension, and practical application of the Supreme Mathematics and the Supreme Alphabet—lessons written by Clarence 13X- and also the 120 Lessons (referred to as degrees) a revised version of the Supreme Wisdom lessons of the NOI, originally written by Wallace Fard Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad.

The basic teachings of the Nation of Gods and Earths are as follows:

1. Black people are the original people of the planet earth.
2. Black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.
3. The white man is the "devil" a distorted version of the black man.
4. The science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to understanding humankind's relationship to the universe.
5. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.
6. Education should be fashioned to enable us to be self-sufficient as a people.
7. Each one should teach one according to their knowledge.
8. The Black Man is God and his proper name is A.L.L.A.H.: Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.
9. Our children are our link to the future, and they must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected, and educated.
10. The unified Black family is the vital building block of the Nation.

This is obviously brief description but hopefully I shed some light on some of the questions yall been asking........
Also, when we refer to the White man as the devil, it's not ALL White men or even the actual White man, but rather behavior of White man that has been "devilish" throughout history. Some emcees are also known brothers of the NGE.....

Rakim, Wu-Tang Clan, Nas, Brand Nubian, Busta Rhymes, Jus Allah, Poor Righteous Teachers, Gang Starr, Digable Planets, AZ, Ras Kass and many more....

The term "G" in hip-hop originally was short for the Five-Percenter greeting of "God," which, through its spread to the American West Coast and the rise of gangsta hip-hop music, it eventually evolved into "gangsta," a stretch from its origin. Other popular terms such as "word is bond," while having significantly older roots than the Five Percenters, were believed to have gained prominence through its use of the term, referring back to the Nation of Islam and the NGE's shared 120 Degrees.

THANKS!! I'm digging that. I'm not feeling three but really feeling six. Thanks.

[SCIENTIZT]

It's deprived from the Nation of Islam which is deprived from Islam, which rejects them.It's not "deprived" from The Nation of Islam..it has the exact same lessons as the Nation of Islam..and the Nation of Islam is not "deprived" of Islam..It's actually a realm of Moorish Science..The Islam that you know today is nothing but a shadow of it's true nature spun out of control by the tyrannies of men..Islamic Arabs were some of the FIRST to enslave original people which is why nearly the entire continent of Africa is Muslim today...They didn't convert by choice, it was imposed upon them the same way Christianity is everywhere else..

[SCIENTIZT]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 5% mean :

5% population = Black God

10% pop = white devil

85% pop = dumb deaf and blind

No..the 5 percent are a symbolic percentage of population who are aware to the reality that most are blind to..that most is the 85 %, so you are right there..however 5 percent does not mean the people who follow Clarence 13x, it really is inclusive of anyone who knows who the true and living God is, and their origin in this world, civilized people also Muslims and Muslim Sons..Keep in mind during the time when the Nation was first born there were NO orthodox muslims in America for Islam was first brought to North America by Noble Drew Ali..the ten percent are those who know the same truth that the five percent know however they use what they know to mislead the 85 and make themselves rich...

[Sosa]

The only problem is that I am not african american....Im dominican...my ancestors were african though....I dont know if that would disqualify me

[Sosa]

It's not "deprived" from The Nation of Islam..it has the exact same lessons as the Nation of Islam..and the Nation of Islam is not "deprived" of Islam..It's actually a realm of Moorish Science..The Islam that you know today is nothing but a shadow of it's true nature spun out of control by the tyrannies of men..Islamic Arabs were some of the FIRST to enslave original people which is why nearly the entire continent of Africa is Muslim today...They didn't convert by choice, it was imposed upon them the same way Christianity is everywhere else..

Good Point...

[Sosa]

Where you from Sosa? There's lots of ciphers and parliaments being held all over the major cities, usually the last Sunday of each month. It's kind of word of mouth so it's hard to find where to go first....I have to travel 1 hour just to get to the nearest parliament in Hamilton (steel city 7s)

I reside in Grand Rapids Michigan right now...which is a couple hours from chicago and detroit...

[Lord Almighty]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 5% mean :

5% population = Black God

10% pop = white devil

85% pop = dumb deaf and blind

That's part of the equation yeah.
In this world, 85% of the population are dumb (ignorant to the truth), deaf (can't hear the truth) and blind (can't see the truth). These people are everyday sheep that continue to absorb the false turths and bullshit that gets put out.

10% of the population know some of the real truth but use it to control the 85% (Skull & Bones Society, High Free Masons etc.. etc...)

5% know the entire truth and use it to teach those that don't (85%).

[vexed less]

...now i aint mean to be disrespectful my challenging the beliefs or views that yall 5Percenters believe in, but i fail to understand how yall determine wat the 'White Devil' is...

...its seems that yall are refering to 'White' people.... but then i am obliged to ask how u define what makes a person 'White'....
....is it the colour of the skin? ...if so does that mean yall feel the same about asains?
....and if it is to do with the skin then how to yall feel about 'Blacks' who are partially 'White'?.... do they get a pass or are they classified as 'White' too?

If it has to do with the 'White' culture or Western culture, how do yall feel about Westerners that are White but also are followers of Islam?


...some one please explain this to me coz i really dont understand how someone can basically throw a whole race of people under the same category without taking into account that people and their way of livings aint as 'cut n dried' as the comments ive read are making them out to be?

[Louis]

...now i aint mean to be disrespectful my challenging the beliefs or views that yall 5Percenters believe in, but i fail to understand how yall determine wat the 'White Devil' is...

...its seems that yall are refering to 'White' people.... but then i am obliged to ask how u define what makes a person 'White'....
....is it the colour of the skin? ...if so does that mean yall feel the same about asains?
....and if it is to do with the skin then how to yall feel about 'Blacks' who are partially 'White'?.... do they get a pass or are they classified as 'White' too?

If it has to do with the 'White' culture or Western culture, how do yall feel about Westerners that are White but also are followers of Islam?


...some one please explain this to me coz i really dont understand how someone can basically throw a whole race of people under the same category without taking into account that people and their way of livings aint as 'cut n dried' as the comments ive read are making them out to be?

I'm reading a book by a white Irish muslim (sunni) who became involved in the way of life of the 5 percenters.

It doesn't appear from this guy's experience that the 5 percent were anti-white at all.

I think in the days of Clarence 13X they might have been more, but the white devil really refers to the racist opressors that form a large part, though not all, of the white community.

It was important for black power advocates to refer to the white devil, partly to try and reverse the mental slavery that was in effect by having a white jesus, mary and joseph in all the christian iconography, and a black devil.

[SCIENTIZT]

The only problem is that I am not african american....Im dominican...my ancestors were african though....I dont know if that would disqualify me


Not it would not..the nation really has nothing to do with color itself..it's based on divine nature..

[SCIENTIZT]

I'm reading a book by a white Irish muslim (sunni) who became involved in the way of life of the 5 percenters.

It doesn't appear from this guy's experience that the 5 percent were anti-white at all.

I think in the days of Clarence 13X they might have been more, but the white devil really refers to the racist opressors that form a large part, though not all, of the white community.

It was important for black power advocates to refer to the white devil, partly to try and reverse the mental slavery that was in effect by having a white jesus, mary and joseph in all the christian iconography, and a black devil.


This is true..

[FOULTOWN]

This sounds crazy but, can you be a Christian and be a 5 percenter? I ask this because Nas talks about Jesus in one line then about the NGE in the next line.

[ElCount]

Yeah Nas is a Christian on Monday, 5%er on Tuesdays, Muslim on Wednesday, Egyptian on Thursdays, White-Man-Slaughterer on Fridays, Whipped Husband on Saturdays, and Daddy on Sundays.

[Kingasiatic]

correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the 5% mean :

5% population = Black God

10% pop = white devil

85% pop = dumb deaf and blind

No, 5% know who & what God is 10% know but dont teach it & 85% are just blind deaf & dumb to any truth!!Peace

[AL-JABR]

I'm lost about this. Can somebody explain it to me?

OMG YOU IS ONE IGNORANT MUTHA FUCKA. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE "NATION OF THE GODS AND EARTHS" ARE. THAT'S IT. AND I WAS THINKING YOU WAS FROM THE HOOD. NO WONDER YOU SAY THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY.

[AL-JABR]

SO IF YOU WERE IN THE NATION OF ISLAM WOULD THAT MAKE YOU PART OF THE 5% SINCE YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF SELF.

[AL-JABR]

THEIR STUDENT ENROLLMENT IS ALMOST THE SAME AS THE NATION OF ISLAM. THEY HAVE A SITE ONLINE WHERE YOU CAN READ UP ON THEM.

[FOULTOWN]

Yeah Nas is a Christian on Monday, 5%er on Tuesdays, Muslim on Wednesday, Egyptian on Thursdays, White-Man-Slaughterer on Fridays, Whipped Husband on Saturdays, and Daddy on Sundays.

ITS SEEMS LIKE IN HIS HOME HIS MOMS WAS CHRISTIAN AND OLU WAS MUSLIM, THEN STARTED WITH THE SUPREME MATHMATICS AND READING ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.....LOL

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

OMG YOU IS ONE IGNORANT MUTHA FUCKA. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THE "NATION OF THE GODS AND EARTHS" ARE. THAT'S IT. AND I WAS THINKING YOU WAS FROM THE HOOD. NO WONDER YOU SAY THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY.

lol, I was jumping it off. Insecure must be your middle name. I know a little bit, but don't get into it because I'm not big on being a follower. But to each there own. lol, I'm not from the hood. Like if I wasn't that's a bad thing. ha ha ha ha. If you need my words to compensate something you feel lacking about yourself, then by all means attack me. Honestly, if it makes you feel better about yourself to question me. Knock yourself out.

[Lord Almighty]

Sharing a common belief with other people don't make you a follower.

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

if the belief has an leader that the believers listen to for guidance then I respectfully disagree with you. I not saying it is a bad thing. My brain isn't wired to be that way. I shy away from being a participant in organizations. I just can't do it.

[Lord Almighty]

Great conversation so far.........

Now, I'm not asking anyone to change their beliefs or convert to something they're not comfortable with but here's some food for thought...

What if I were to tell you that organized thought and organized belief are some of the most powerful tools known to mankind?

What if I were to tell you that ignorance is an organization? It is an organized force that impacts on the community as a whole. To dispel ignorance, Allah calls on US to become an organized force. But, to be an organized force, Allah sets down certain rules as to how the organized force must work. The whole concept of leadership, respect and the sense of order, the nature of things he taught us, these are the things that work.

When believers come together for the making of prayer or even to share common thought, Allah begins to accentuate positive things, likes and similarities; and He begins to point out the unimportance of the negative things that keep them away from each other, the little attitudes, and the differences.
Indeed, Allah swears, "By those who arrange themselves in ranks and who are therefore strong in repelling evil." By arranging yourselves in ranks Allah begins to synchronize the hearts of believers.

Allah says, "Not if you had all the money in the world would you lead their hearts." But on the basis of coming to prayer, Allah gives us an action, a practice, that enables us to become a force that moves together. We begin to bond. That bonding process occurs among the people that come together and fuse their common thoughts.

So don't hesitate to commit to an organization in fear of becoming a "follower", instead be excited that you get to carry out your beliefs and inner-mission with those that walk the same path as you.........

.....that is unless you don't know WHAT to believe, which is much more dooming of a fate than participating in a positive organized force....

I look to my self for guidance but I find peace knowing that there are many other Gods out there that have even more knowledge than I do and I can one day acheive their level of enlightenment. That motivates me to stay open minded but not to stray too far outside the opening of my mind. I don't look at it as idol worship, or looking to a leader as a form of guidance.

Just the way I cee it.....

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I know I believe in myself, life, and death. I believe in the possibilty of all things and the except I don't know everything. I also believe that I don't and won't ever trust mankind. I'm cynical about everything. That's me in a nut shell and I'm a freakin happy camper.

[Lord Almighty]

For someone as open-minded and inquisitive as you are I find it strange that you're as cynical as you claim to be. Cynics and those that lack trust don't typically ask too many questions because they assume to know enough. If I didn't know better I'd say you're a cynic that doesn't want to be a cynic, but because it's cool to be Eeyore, you stay in Eeyore-mode lol.......I know I'm prolly way off but lol....

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I'm more into the psychological and social aspects of everything. I'm listen and evaluate the information. However, it is just to better understand people. I'm not moved by anything I hear. I am just trying to better understand the people that feel that way. Remember, I listen to fox just to know what the other side thinks. I am sorry I'm not fitting into that neat box. I am an individual and do things because that is just how I'm wired to behave. I'm genetically predisposed to be this way. I gues that's not hood enough, but it is the truth.

[Lord Almighty]

No need to apologize for the way you are. I totally dig your angle homie. You are the way your are for your own sake and that's perfectly fine. I think and act for myself and myself only but I also understand and realize there are many others out there that share my general personal beliefs, so that brings me peace knowing I've got people out there somewhat like me.

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I feel you. It is hard being of the mindstate that I have. It really isn't by choice. I would compare it to a person that is afraid of water. The is no way that they could ever image jumping into a swimming pool. Even if it was a matter of life or death. The phobia is so strong and wired into there head they could not do it. That is why I feel that if there is an christian type afterlife I wouldn't punished because I was made this way. And if there is a problem with that then the maker needs to look at the assembly line, lol

[Lord Almighty]

Haha! Interesting outlook. So are you saying your lack of trust is more like a uncontrollable fear/phobia rather than you simply analyzing the situation thoroughly and then choosing not to commit knowing all the possible circumstances? If that's the case why have you become so comfortable with your fear to the point you would rather not conquer it?

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

I recognize that I don't trust anybody. I don't waste time trying to change because I'm comfortable with myself. My lack of trust doesn't stop me from going after things. I just know that the outcome my be unfavorable. Knowing that prevents me from losing sleep wondering why something bad happens. I expect it. It isn't a fear or phobia. It is just how I view things.

I'm not paranoid. Paranoid believe that people and situations are out to get them. I don't believe that. What I do believe is people do what is in the best interest during events that happen throughout their life. If I fall into the category where I'm beneficial then cool, if I am deem not to be a necessity the am screw. I know that and it is cool. I pretty much expect the expected. And that is people looking out for themselves.

I know it is a messed up way to view things, but it work for me.

[SCIENTIZT]

This sounds crazy but, can you be a Christian and be a 5 percenter? I ask this because Nas talks about Jesus in one line then about the NGE in the next line.

essentially yes..being a Five Percenter is about walking not talking Jesus was one of the first "five percenters"..he represented and taught of a way of life that would free people from the control of their oppressors..there were others who knew of what he spoke already (Judaism) because he did not create anything new, they just used their knowledge to rape the common folk , these rapists are the ten percent(pharisees, sadducees and such)

[SCIENTIZT]

SO IF YOU WERE IN THE NATION OF ISLAM WOULD THAT MAKE YOU PART OF THE 5% SINCE YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF SELF.

it would if you taught freely of what you knew to all the human families of the planet earth..not if you used what you knew to stage sermons where you would collect money and such..that would be ten percent

[SCIENTIZT]

As Raekown once said "it's just a new way of thinking"...the basic principle behind the lessons is to take responsibility for yourself..don't take ANYTHING on face value..The Original Man being God is a path of maturity somewhat like seed to a a flower..the first degree in the 1-10 shows this..we all have to evolve in order to manifest our true nature which is supreme righteousness= Almighty God...God is nothing more than a title that means supreme being..supreme means most high, being means to exist..the most high to exist on the planet Earth is the Original man for every other man spawned from him..The lesson teach that there is no mystery god..A real world that was created by an unreal god would seem asanine..The mystery god was created as a scapegoat for those who would rather play a victim in their lives instead of taking responisbility for their thoughts and actions..

[Lord Almighty]

^ Sun is dropping maaaad science on y'all.

Peace Scientizt, what's your righteous name? (im)

[SCIENTIZT]

^ Sun is dropping maaaad science on y'all.

Peace Scientizt, what's your righteous name? (im)

Peace, Tislam Magnetic Allah

[SCIENTIZT]

The wild part is the basic tenets of the Nation of Gods and Earths is reflective in damn near every religion that I've come across..The premise of man having dominion over the earth as long as he maintains dominion over himself..not to mention the mere existance of Masons proves that the Original man is God..

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

Interesting stuff. Now I'm not the brightest person but explain this disclaimer on their website.

DISCLAIMER

Allah's Nation, The Nation of Gods and Earths, is NOT A HATE GROUP, GANG, OR RELIGION. We are NOT ANTI-WHITE OR PRO BLACK, we are ANTI-DEVILISHMENT AND PRO-RIGHTEOUSNESS. We recognize the the OPPORTUNITY AND CHANCE of everyone from the Human Families of the Planet Earth to make a positive contribution to CIVILIZATION regardless of their ethnicity.


I might be a little slow but the 5% tenets say some thing different than the disclaimer does. I mean it kind of looks bad with them calling the white man devil and the black man god. if a white group did this and said we are racist most people would laugh.

[KMD]

so 5% follow the rules of islam? such as no alcohol, pork, gambling.... praying 5 times a day.... performing Ramadan?

[SCIENTIZT]

Interesting stuff. Now I'm not the brightest person but explain this disclaimer on their website.

DISCLAIMER

Allah's Nation, The Nation of Gods and Earths, is NOT A HATE GROUP, GANG, OR RELIGION. We are NOT ANTI-WHITE OR PRO BLACK, we are ANTI-DEVILISHMENT AND PRO-RIGHTEOUSNESS. We recognize the the OPPORTUNITY AND CHANCE of everyone from the Human Families of the Planet Earth to make a positive contribution to CIVILIZATION regardless of their ethnicity.


I might be a little slow but the 5% tenets say some thing different than the disclaimer does. I mean it kind of looks bad with them calling the white man devil and the black man god. if a white group did this and said we are racist most people would laugh.



first..there are no such thing as the 5% tenets..as said before 5% includes civilized people, muslims and muslim sons..civilized people pertains to ANYONE who is striving to live a life of righteousness (right and justness)..

the lessons of the nation of Islam explain who the original man is and who the colored man is...and basically it boils down to manifestations of one's self...the farthest thing from black is white, so the farthest thing form God is devil, however we know that no person is solely good or evil..we are all a balance of these forces on every scale from micro to macro..keep in mind, when the lesson were introduced to the public original peopl in America were in a degraded and debased state mentally and spirtually..so in order to change this condition a cure mus be introduced that is just as powerful and traumatic is the disease in order to provoke an adverse effect in the inflicted..hence the lessons...the underlying message is borderline existentialism...

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

1. That black people are the original people of the planet earth.

2. That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

3. That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to
understanding man's relationship to the universe.

4. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

5. That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self
sufficient as a people.

6. That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm,
Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.

8. That our children are our link to the future and they
must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

9. That the unified black family is the vital building block of
the nation.

you are using semantics, these are tenets, core beliefs. It is very interesting but it sure does not ring enlightenment and has a very clear message. Now if John Duddy an Irish dude in Belfast and his family follows these is his family black? Come on. Help me understand how these words don mean to create some type of inclusiveness.

[ILLPHOENIX7]

the truth....i am pretty knowledgeable many different religions...the first question i have is...when did god write the bible or quran or any other holy book for that matter?...this question was asked to me by Paul Guthrie...if you don't know who he is google the name...the truth...who really knows anything? everything you do is learned behavior...so yes...when you read the bible...or quran...it might make sense to you...you are human...the truth...no one knows anything...and if someone does...it is not you...people died believing the earth was flat...to them it was true because they don't know any better...so...if the NGE's works for you...keep doing it...if Christianity works for you....keep at it...

what do i believe...i believe there is something greater than man...its name...i don't know...all i know is i am greatful...religion is a tool that causes nothing but division...how do i know that?...look at the world..you can see that...

kamik orphanz...illphoenix...signing off

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

Your example about the earth being flat is what I try t tell people all the time. People think they got all the answers. I tell them you only have all the answers based on the knowledge man has now. I was telling Incog's brother at his wedding that he has peace because he has humbled himself to the lord. I have peace because I have humbled myself to the fact we don't have all the answers. So in my mind the truth is bigger than us. And I just don't have time to worry or try to make sense of it. I am just glad to have peace of mind like he does.

But back to the 5% stuff. Sounds cool but sounds like another point of view that tries to separate people. Don't sound like they are trying to bring everybody into the fold. But I am only going by what I read here. Sorry if that doesn't make me hood. LOL, damn I am going to laugh about this forever. Rah, thanks... hood.

[ILLPHOENIX7]

Your example about the earth being flat is what I try t tell people all the time. People think they got all the answers. I tell them you only have all the answers based on the knowledge man has now. I was telling Incog's brother at his wedding that he has peace because he has humbled himself to the lord. I have peace because I have humbled myself to the fact we don't have all the answers. So in my mind the truth is bigger than us. And I just don't have time to worry or try to make sense of it. I am just glad to have peace of mind like he does.

But back to the 5% stuff. Sounds cool but sounds like another point of view that tries to separate people. Don't sound like they are trying to bring everybody into the fold. But I am only going by what I read here. Sorry if that doesn't make me hood. LOL, damn I am going to laugh about this forever. Rah, thanks... hood.

i think you have more knowledge of self than most people on here claim to have...a person's view is only going to be one sided if they only look to one source for the answers...

one thing i noticed about your posts is you always apologize for not being hood...you do not have to apologize for that....i have experienced both in my life...i was born in the hood...i moved to the burbs and lived there from 2nd grade until 9th and then moved back to the hood...the math is easy to add up as to which place i was in the longest...i can tell you now that i received the better education in the suburbs...my pops was a black panther at one time...he was also a muslim in prison..he became a christian when he was out...i received all types of knowledge at a young age and experienced much more...you should not be apologize about where you come from...that is just a location...you are you because of your unique life experiences...stay up!

illphoenix

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

i think you have more knowledge of self than most people on here claim to have...a person's view is only going to be one sided if they only look to one source for the answers...

one thing i noticed about your posts is you always apologize for not being hood...you do not have to apologize for that....i have experienced both in my life...i was born in the hood...i moved to the burbs and lived there from 2nd grade until 9th and then moved back to the hood...the math is easy to add up as to which place i was in the longest...i can tell you now that i received the better education in the suburbs...my pops was a black panther at one time...he was also a muslim in prison..he became a christian when he was out...i received all types of knowledge at a young age and experienced much more...you should not be apologize about where you come from...that is just a location...you are you because of your unique life experiences...stay up!

illphoenix

It is actually a joke. Growing up in Philly does crazy things to a cat. I fight the stupid things that come natural to a person who has only lived in the inner city every day. Because I older and wiser it is easier, it still is a struggle. But knowing my faults allow me to be stronger and succeed in life. I just say it because Rah made a comment about it and it is so funny. It's just a joke I have been dropping. I think it is funny. My "when keeping it real moments" have gone down big time. Thanks to growing older and having a mortgage and kids, lol.

[SCIENTIZT]

1. That black people are the original people of the planet earth.

2. That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

3. That the science of Supreme Mathematics is the key to
understanding man's relationship to the universe.

4. Islam is a natural way of life, not a religion.

5. That education should be fashioned to enable us to be self
sufficient as a people.

6. That each one should teach one according to their knowledge.

7. That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm,
Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.

8. That our children are our link to the future and they
must be nurtured, respected, loved, protected and educated.

9. That the unified black family is the vital building block of
the nation.

you are using semantics, these are tenets, core beliefs. It is very interesting but it sure does not ring enlightenment and has a very clear message. Now if John Duddy an Irish dude in Belfast and his family follows these is his family black? Come on. Help me understand how these words don mean to create some type of inclusiveness.


in all actuality they were meant to instill an esteem in a people who didn't have any..to create a foundation fwhere one did not exist...the one thing that I always loved about lessons is that they never claimed ot be ALL one would ever need in order to live a life of righteousness..they only say they are the "root" to civilization...which means from that point you will branch off and learn how other things relate which would complete an understanding for you..granted some of the methods of the NGE may be "dated" for lack of a better term, however everything must be taken in proper context...alot of what you're reading has been written by men who were in the worst possible conditions in life and saved themselves by learning these lessons...So they're gonna have a fervor with their description of things that may seem a bit outrageous, however it's nothing short of the enthusiasm that any convert has when they find something that helped them and want to share it with the world...Another thing that is beautiful about the lessons is that we all manifest and see things differently..so My angle on a subject my not be the same as your angle, which is why we build..we excahneg our views on these subjects to add to another's understanding...so that we can see things completely...Does that sound like enlightenment to you, it may not..the question is..Does it really matter? There's a million ways to get downtown, we all don't have to take the same road...Also, I can't vouch for what another man says or writes, who better to ask than the source themselves?

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

gotcha, thanks

[LifeIsCheckers]

I hear a lot of ramble'n on and a lot of interpretation of the 120 lessons, but none are accurate. The lessons mean what they say. If it says that the whiteman is a grafted devil, thats what he is, a grafted devil. Please don't try to soften the lessons up because they are intended to be hard. If u are losing a fistfight and u are not the aggressor its only right to pull out that knife and slice ur opponents throat. When u soften our lessons up its like having that knife and not using it.

[SCIENTIZT]

I hear a lot of ramble'n on and a lot of interpretation of the 120 lessons, but none are accurate. The lessons mean what they say. If it says that the whiteman is a grafted devil, thats what he is, a grafted devil. Please don't try to soften the lessons up because they are intended to be hard. If u are losing a fistfight and u are not the aggressor its only right to pull out that knife and slice ur opponents throat. When u soften our lessons up its like having that knife and not using it.



The lessons also say that the original man have 7 and 1/2 ounces of brain, however physically that is not a fact..Add on..

[SCIENTIZT]

To not consider or take into account the reasoning behind what the lessons say and understanding the time period in which they were revealed is worse than sugar-coating something. At least when you sugar coat, you're acknowledging the truth to a certain degree. Scientizt's explanation of the actual facts was done in a manner in which 85ers can somewhat get a better understanding of the truth. I wouldn't even call it sugar coating.

What I'm trying to say is you can't always kick knowledge to someone and expect them to understand right off the bat. That's not the correct method of teaching. Sometimes you need to explain things in a different way (while still maintaining the truth) in order to let the facts sink in their brain.

When you deny surrounding facts and the reasons behind why the lessons speak so vehemently to the people during the time they were revealed, you manifest ignorance, and ignorance is next to devilishment.


Adding on..The lessons are not all fact and not all figurative, it is a mixture of both in order to provoke individual thought and scientific process, when people try to say everything in them is to be accepted as is- cheapens their worth in the same vein as the Bible...NOTHING is to be talen on face value, not even the lessons...I dislike when people try to make the nation into something it is not...that's the same reason people are walking around with buttons with the father's picture on them..which is the equivalent of wearing a crucifix or the pisces Jesus symbol..when he was alive I'm sure people wouldn't have done it, so why now? because people are victims of their generation, slaves to ental death and power EVEN when they have enlightenment..they practice things based on the routines that they are most comfortable..If you spent 15 years being a Christian, if you become something else you are going to approach it jaded by with fifteen years of Christian programming..it's just reality...it's just like any other behavior..

[LifeIsCheckers]

Scientizt: The cerebellum makes up about 12% of the brain. The average Caucasian brain is about 3 lbs or 48 ounces; 12% of that is about 6 ounces. The average African-American brain is about 4 lbs or 64 ounces; 12% of that is about 7.5 ounces.

Ref:http://books.google.com/books?id=MOEDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA162&lpg=PA162&dq=what+part+of+the+brain+weighs+6+ounces&source=web&ots=fGLirOr8XJ&sig=27_kwjGdWZb7kRfk8u_rvjr0bvE#PPA162,M1

Symm, u keep saying the time the lessons were given it was meant for the people of that time as if its content is not equally relavent today. The devil of 1934 is the same devil today. The only thing that is different is that we as a people have gotten stronger and won't tolerate the same outright disrespectful devilishment of the past. That don't mean sh!t still ain't happen'n.

Explain things in a different way? that don't seem like math to me. How do u explain that 1+1=2 in a different way without being wrong? To me it sounds like u are intentionally telling lies to people to try and convince them that ur the good guy and ur lessons don't display descrimination and racism. When u do this u display graftedness and GRAFTEDNESS is DEVILISHMENT.

I can't believe brothers nowadays are so soft. At one time Harlem was full of strong gods and u would rarely see devils living in our community let alone walking through our neighborhoods. Now all u see is devils walking poodles and cleverly planning gentrification, while we sit back and say, "oh our lessons don't mean what they say, they mean something totally different" in an attempt to please the devil and his followers. I teach the lesson the way I got them. The way that attract the youth that are victims of the colored man and his modern day slavery and devilish tactics.

We all gotta remember that our situation as a people ain't getting no better and all that we have(120 lessons) to keep us strong is being diluted by 85%ers who think they are gods just cause they can quote the first degree in the Student Enrollment. So please stop grafting the lessons.

What is a real devil? Any grafted man that is made weak and wicked or any live grafted germ from the original is a devil

MOST IGNORANCE COMES FROM NOT KNOWING THE LESSONS!!!! STUDY UR LESSONS GOD-

[Lord Almighty]

Scientizt: The cerebellum makes up about 12% of the brain. The average Caucasian brain is about 3 lbs or 48 ounces; 12% of that is about 6 ounces. The average African-American brain is about 4 lbs or 64 ounces; 12% of that is about 7.5 ounces.

Ref:http://books.google.com/books?id=MOEDAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA162&lpg=PA162&dq=what+part+of+the+brain+weighs+6+ounces&source=web&ots=fGLirOr8XJ&sig=27_kwjGdWZb7kRfk8u_rvjr0bvE#PPA162,M1


It strikes me as odd that you chose to use a man made/devil made reference tool (google/internet) to prove brain mass. What does it say about African-Canadian brains? Because that's what I am. Or what about African-British? Or just plain African brain? Are we supposed to simply assume they all fall into the same category? If so, what's the point in calling them African-American vs. Caucasian. Why not Negroid vs. Caucasian?

Symm, u keep saying the time the lessons were given it was meant for the people of that time as if its content is not equally relavent today. The devil of 1934 is the same devil today. The only thing that is different is that we as a people have gotten stronger and won't tolerate the same outright disrespectful devilishment of the past. That don't mean sh!t still ain't happen'n.

You're right, the same things happen today......However when you're dealing with an 85er that has no knowledge of the lessons and when he/she comes across them for the first time, their reaction is most likely going to be "What the fuck? How can a Nation that promotes peace be so anti-white?"
Now you and I both know that's not the fact (not anti-white but pro-peace/black) but you have to understand that outsiders who are lost in the darkness are going to look at it that way.
And while you can continue to hammer home the facts regarding the devil, you're not going to TEACH an 85er until you explain the circumstances that led to why the lessons say what they do. Is it fact? Absolutely. B.u.t there's a better way to teach the facts besides simply saying "YES! It is what it is."

Explain things in a different way? that don't seem like math to me. How do u explain that 1+1=2 in a different way without being wrong? To me it sounds like u are intentionally telling lies to people to try and convince them that ur the good guy and ur lessons don't display descrimination and racism. When u do this u display graftedness and GRAFTEDNESS is DEVILISHMENT.

You can't explain 1+1=2 in a different way.....you can however explain HOW 1+1=2 (which is what someone needs to know before they can understand).
It's kinda of like....baking soda and vinegar will always cause an explosion....we all know that....that's fact......but HOW does it happen? That underlying truth on HOW the lessons came to be and WHY they say what they do is just as important as the message behind each lesson....ESPECIALLY when dealing with those that have zero knowledge.

I can't believe brothers nowadays are so soft. At one time Harlem was full of strong gods and u would rarely see devils living in our community let alone walking through our neighborhoods. Now all u see is devils walking poodles and cleverly planning gentrification, while we sit back and say, "oh our lessons don't mean what they say, they mean something totally different" in an attempt to please the devil and his followers. I teach the lesson the way I got them. The way that attract the youth that are victims of the colored man and his modern day slavery and devilish tactics.

Are you suggesting that I kill the next devil I see? How do I explain that to my seed? How is that attractive to the youth? Is that even Peace? I'm not being ignorant God, I'm asking a straight up question.

We all gotta remember that our situation as a people ain't getting no better and all that we have(120 lessons) to keep us strong is being diluted by 85%ers who think they are gods just cause they can quote the first degree in the Student Enrollment. So please stop grafting the lessons.

What is a real devil? Any grafted man that is made weak and wicked or any live grafted germ from the original is a devil

Nobody is grafting the lessons. It's impossible for the lessons to be diluted by 85ers because they (120 lessons) transcend the basic/minimalistic mentality of 85ers. Universal justice will always prevail and expose any form of dilution you speak of. You are right though....there are many so-called Gods and Earths roaming the internet and so it's hard for the sheep to tell who's real and who's fake......but as a God, it's not really your problem to worry too much about those who can't tell the real from fake. Realness/knowledge is attractive. Like the magnetic piece, if they want to learn they find you, not the other way around.

MOST IGNORANCE COMES FROM NOT KNOWING THE LESSONS!!!! STUDY UR LESSONS GOD-

You can bomb me all you want.....reciting the lessons word for word is one thing (and I applaud you for being able to do so), but teaching is another. I know where I stand. By the way.....you have a devil-made weapon in your avatar........
PEACE!

[Dr. ibarfly Jones]

The main point that as a non believer I am seeing that even people of strong faith see the teachings differently. That might be by design or just what happens when man touches things. Either way, people need to except we are all different and find ways to embrace each other.



Juan David Gomez Tapiero (http://meshuge.com/index.php?topic=1268.0)

[Lord Almighty]

^You're right bro. And every once in a while you get an arrogant that flaunts his so-called knowledge around like dangling balls and tries to make people from the same walk of life feel as if they don't know anything. Those type of people usually get their balls chopped off..........that's universal justice at it's finest. lol

[LifeIsCheckers]

As a youth, learning about what the caucasian man has done and is doing to my people, filled me with anger. At that time I wanted to hear something like, "why does muhammad or any muslim murder the devil?." That was 1, and that is what i wanted. I didn't want someone teaching me that the degree means to kill the devil on a mental plane(i.e. the four devils: envy, greed, lust and hate). That would've turned me away from wanting to learn. This is why we say memorize the lessons first, thats 1. 2 is being able to quote at random. 3 is a deeper insight, which is what u are teaching people. I do not agree u should teach people ur 3 of the lessons. The FATHER said for everyone to draw up their own 3 on the degrees based on or using the Supreme Mathematics. With ur method of teaching ur 3, u give the youth no room to grow. Let them develope their own 3 in time.

And touching on my avatar, which is a Bersa .380 handgun, one of the best concealed carry weapons today. Life is Checkers(the softened versions of Life is Chess) this means if ur opponent advances with his weapon u'd better have an equal or greater weapon for defense and be more swift and clever or face defeat.
Its somewhat like the sword used in Muhammad's time, but the modern version. LMAO!

As far as the balls dangling around metaphor, if ur feelings get hurt in an online 0 I can imagine u in a face to face 0. -Enough Said-

And if u check that google/internet link u will notice that its a link to an actual book. That's besides the point though! U mad cause I actually took time to study and draw it up using Math and Science...lol

Its impossible for the lessons to be grafted??? Trick-knowlege is the truth mixed with lies. I believe that is grafting.

Why was yacub and the devil taken into the caves of Europe?

[Wil Munny]

As a youth, learning about what the caucasian man has done and is doing to my people, filled me with anger. At that time I wanted to hear something like, "why does muhammad or any muslim murder the devil?." That was 1, and that is what i wanted. I didn't want someone teaching me that the degree means to kill the devil on a mental plane(i.e. the four devils: envy, greed, lust and hate). That would've turned me away from wanting to learn. This is why we say memorize the lessons first, thats 1. 2 is being able to quote at random. 3 is a deeper insight, which is what u are teaching people. I do not agree u should teach people ur 3 of the lessons. The FATHER said for everyone to draw up their own 3 on the degrees based on or using the Supreme Mathematics. With ur method of teaching ur 3, u give the youth no room to grow. Let them develope their own 3 in time.

And touching on my avatar, which is a Bersa .380 handgun, one of the best concealed carry weapons today. Life is Checkers(the softened versions of Life is Chess) this means if ur opponent advances with his weapon u'd better have an equal or greater weapon for defense and be more swift and clever or face defeat.
Its somewhat like the sword used in Muhammad's time, but the modern version. LMAO!

As far as the balls dangling around metaphor, if ur feelings get hurt in an online 0 I can imagine u in a face to face 0. -Enough Said-

And if u check that google/internet link u will notice that its a link to an actual book. That's besides the point though! U mad cause I actually took time to study and draw it up using Math and Science...lol

Its impossible for the lessons to be grafted??? Trick-knowlege is the truth mixed with lies. I believe that is grafting.

Why was yacub and the devil taken into the caves of Europe?


lol, no offense but it has been almost 2 decades since I heard yacub. The funniest shit I've ever heard has been by cats that use that term. Power on with hating the white devil dude. I honestly doubt it will make you a better person but if it keeps you out of jail cool.

[Lord Almighty]

As a youth, learning about what the caucasian man has done and is doing to my people, filled me with anger. At that time I wanted to hear something like, "why does muhammad or any muslim murder the devil?." That was 1, and that is what i wanted. I didn't want someone teaching me that the degree means to kill the devil on a mental plane(i.e. the four devils: envy, greed, lust and hate). That would've turned me away from wanting to learn. This is why we say memorize the lessons first, thats 1. 2 is being able to quote at random. 3 is a deeper insight, which is what u are teaching people. I do not agree u should teach people ur 3 of the lessons. The FATHER said for everyone to draw up their own 3 on the degrees based on or using the Supreme Mathematics. With ur method of teaching ur 3, u give the youth no room to grow. Let them develope their own 3 in time.

And touching on my avatar, which is a Bersa .380 handgun, one of the best concealed carry weapons today. Life is Checkers(the softened versions of Life is Chess) this means if ur opponent advances with his weapon u'd better have an equal or greater weapon for defense and be more swift and clever or face defeat.
Its somewhat like the sword used in Muhammad's time, but the modern version. LMAO!

As far as the balls dangling around metaphor, if ur feelings get hurt in an online 0 I can imagine u in a face to face 0. -Enough Said-

And if u check that google/internet link u will notice that its a link to an actual book. That's besides the point though! U mad cause I actually took time to study and draw it up using Math and Science...lol

Its impossible for the lessons to be grafted??? Trick-knowlege is the truth mixed with lies. I believe that is grafting.

Why was yacub and the devil taken into the caves of Europe?

My feelings were not hurt whatsoever, that I can guarantee you. The balls thing wasn't really aimed at you but if you took offense to it then I'm sorry you feel that way.
I'd love to have a face to face cipher with you Sun, it sounds like you have a great grasp of the lessons and I know it would serve me well to build with someone with as much passion for the culture. Our angles may conflict when it comes to how we choose to TEACH b.u.t seeing as how today is Equality, we always gotta be mindful that we're on the same page.
As far as you accusing me of grafting, I most certainly resent that implication but if that's the way you feel I can't change that. I can only hope that you understand that there are many different methodologies of teaching while still maintaining and preserving the truth.

PEACE

[LifeIsCheckers]

True Indeed. I post mostly objective for mental calasthenics. Its all Peace-

I would reply to the drunk Ibarfly guy, but I've checked his recent posts and they have contained mostly rubbish.

[Wil Munny]

At least you two kissed and made up after spending half of the thread attacking each other. I hate conflict.

[LifeIsCheckers]

Conflict is the seed of Resolution..

[SCIENTIZT]

Scientizt: The cerebellum makes up about 12% of the brain. The average Caucasian brain is about 3 lbs or 48 ounces; 12% of that is about 6 ounces. The average African-American brain is about 4 lbs or 64 ounces; 12% of that is about 7.5 ounces.

That's peace..however MY lessons don't say cerebellum..

[SCIENTIZT]

this entire conversation echos of something my old head said back in 92...There's a difference between being full of power..and being powerful..

[Lord Almighty]

this entire conversation echos of something my old head said back in 92...There's a difference between being full of power..and being powerful..

That's peace.

[birdman87]

I am extremely interested in the nations of gods and earth, i came across it after hearing an az song and looking up something he said i really can't remember what it was at this time.

I would like to learn more about the 5% nation but all i can do is read what i see on the internet ,being that i don't know anyone who has even heard of the 5 per centers.

I enjoyed the conversation about it, but i'd like to know what is the 120 lessons oh boy was referring to?

[Kingasiatic]

I am extremely interested in the nations of gods and earth, i came across it after hearing an az song and looking up something he said i really can't remember what it was at this time.

I would like to learn more about the 5% nation but all i can do is read what i see on the internet ,being that i don't know anyone who has even heard of the 5 per centers.

I enjoyed the conversation about it, but i'd like to know what is the 120 lessons oh boy was referring to?Peace,I dont teach grown men 120 lesson I only teach the babiez like allah told my elders.What i will do is give you this.www.myspace.com/allahyouthcenterinmecca,also www.allahsnation.net,The address to the school if you want to write is 2122 7th ave,Harlem,N.Y.10027 & get a copy of the 5% news paper from God Kalim.Peace!!

[Louis]

Peace,I dont teach grown men 120 lesson I only teach the babiez like allah told my elders.

Just curious - how come you don't teach grown ups?

[Kingasiatic]

Just curious - how come you don't teach grown ups?Because they are grown enough to go 2 Allah school in mecca & get it from the elderz like i would do if im an adult,hell like i do now & did when i was young(16+)Peace!!!

[Louis]

^^cool

when I just came into this thread to post this, it was on 666 views....does that freak ya'll out?

[Wil Munny]

^^cool

when I just came into this thread to post this, it was on 666 views....does that freak ya'll out?

nah, the only number that freaks me out is zero. zero heart beats, zero breathes, zero money.

[SCIENTIZT]

Just curious - how come you don't teach grown ups?

The father taught us to teach the babies because older people are stuck in their routine of life and a person older than them would have a better chance at showing them the path than someone in their peer group..plus the children are the future..so if they had knowledge of self young, by the time they were in adulthood their position in life would coincide with the principles of their enlightenment..for example..what if your doctor had knowledge of self..he would use his knowledge of medicine to further advance the people instead of hiding behind a hippocratic oath..feel me?

[Wil Munny]

The father taught us to teach the babies because older people are stuck in their routine of life and a person older than them would have a better chance at showing them the path than someone in their peer group..plus the children are the future..so if they had knowledge of self young, by the time they were in adulthood their position in life would coincide with the principles of their enlightenment..for example..what if your doctor had knowledge of self..he would use his knowledge of medicine to further advance the people instead of hiding behind a hippocratic oath..feel me?


Lol, if he doesn't understand the concept of endocutunation he crazy. Young children, the emotionally needy or spiritually broken are always easiest to convert. It is not so much about truth, but strength in numbers and the path of least resistance. It is easier to grow as a group when you look at the most receptive people to increase your the followers of a certain belief. If it wasn't people would wait until they were adults before learning and being involved into religion. Tell a child from day one, that Allah is god, Jehovah, Yahweh, whatever it is easier for a child to follow that without question. I'm not knocking it but there are key elements to brain washing. I am not saying this is brain washing but the lack of contrast between the two are not very evident. Coercive persuasion is what it is. Not that it doesn't serve a good purpose or doesn't have its place in society. But it is what it is.

[AL-JABR]

LOOK WHAT I FOUND AFTER I GOOGLED THE NATION OF THE GODS AND EARTHS. DAM OUR FORUM IS THAT POPULAR. LOL!!1

[~y~]

Lol, if he doesn't understand the concept of endocutunation he crazy. Young children, the emotionally needy or spiritually broken are always easiest to convert. It is not so much about truth, but strength in numbers and the path of least resistance. It is easier to grow as a group when you look at the most receptive people to increase your the followers of a certain belief. If it wasn't people would wait until they were adults before learning and being involved into religion. Tell a child from day one, that Allah is god, Jehovah, Yahweh, whatever it is easier for a child to follow that without question. I'm not knocking it but there are key elements to brain washing. I am not saying this is brain washing but the lack of contrast between the two are not very evident. Coercive persuasion is what it is. Not that it doesn't serve a good purpose or doesn't have its place in society. But it is what it is.

I have to agree to this to certain extent. One thing that stands out to me:

It is not so much about truth, but strength in numbers and the path of least resistance.

This is an epic of good and evil of mankind.

Deception is a powerful tool.

[SCIENTIZT]

I have to agree to this to certain extent. One thing that stands out to me:



This is an epic of good and evil of mankind.

Deception is a powerful tool.


Good point..Christianity and islam are two of the largest religious factions in the world...all due to the points cited by Ibarfly

[N.I.R.U. ALLAH]

Peace, while doing the Knowledge to the forum, I've seen some valid/good points as well as some straight up garbage. Me personally, I teach whomever wants to learn Black/White, Young/Old. "Each One Teach One according to their Knowledge" .Anyone can be a Five Percenter i.e. civilized person also called muslim and muslim sons. Supreme Mathematics and Supreme Alphabets are your tools to Understsanding yourself and the Universe around you. I've had Knowledge of Self since Born Equality- 1996 and I have used my Book of Life( S.M., S.A. and 120 Lessons) as my foundation as I have studied different religions, schools of thought, fields of science and the Greatest Understanding that I have drawn up is " To Each His Own". Whatever works for you, so be it but either you come in Peace or leave in Pieces. Respect me and I'll Respect you nothing more nothing less. For those who want to learn, I will gladly Build with you everyone my TIME is too precious for the Born Savious(BS) P.roudly E.ducating A.llah's C.hildren E.verywhere N.I.R.U. ALLAH