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DaSun
12-24-2007, 07:49 PM
What's your take on the U.S.'s heavy influence on the Middle East, particularly Palestine vs Isreal?

We all know US is always after $$$$, but why do they always side with the Jews? and always budding in on this historic war between Jews vs Muslims?

As a Muslim living in the US, I know the Jews basically run the US and the Americans, espcially the Christians are puppets...being told what to do and who to support.

Dr. ibarfly Jones
12-24-2007, 07:57 PM
Lil dude, it started of with the makings of an intelligent conversation but then you ignorance took over and fucked it all up. Why don't you find a white supremacist board to spread hate about the jews with them. Then show them a picture of yourself so they can then tell you how decide whether or not to hang you and tie you to a truck and drag you. shame you feed into the same hate the people that hate us. That is why I'm out of this ignorant thread. I sure some of your other buddies can pipe in with links, stats and all the good shit that my earn you a hitler merit badge. Even though he would gas you too.

DaSun
12-24-2007, 08:26 PM
It's that US hates Muslims and sides with Jews.

For your info Jews hate Muslims and vice versa.

4anybody...
12-25-2007, 12:33 AM
in denver, ive talked with many christian, jewish and muslim leaders and lay people on the subject

one thing that they all stress is:

do not confuse israelis and palestinians with jews and muslims in general

Realtalk
12-26-2007, 10:28 AM
What's your take on the U.S.'s heavy influence on the Middle East, particularly Palestine vs Isreal?

We all know US is always after $$$$, but why do they always side with the Jews? and always budding in on this historic war between Jews vs Muslims?

As a Muslim living in the US, I know the Jews basically run the US and the Americans, espcially the Christians are puppets...being told what to do and who to support.



Your information is false

first of all Us does not always support Israel
they did not fully support it till the late 60s

Few people in the Us government actually wanted Israel created in 48


they support Israel because they share values and it is the only democracy in the middle east

Dr. ibarfly Jones
12-26-2007, 10:44 AM
in denver, ive talked with many christian, jewish and muslim leaders and lay people on the subject

one thing that they all stress is:

do not confuse israelis and palestinians with jews and muslims in general

And you can't confuse Israelis and Palestinians people with the rhetoric and action their governments do. Just like you can't say I hate anyone based on the actions my country takes.

Generalizing is a sign on not understanding the complex nature of things. It is not that the two people hate each other. It is that the two people have not found the most beneficial way for both of them to coexist.

DaSun
12-26-2007, 12:38 PM
We all know that US is against Islam, and so in return they have to support Israel just to be against Islam. And their excuse Terrorism.

But as we know when Judgement day comes it'll be Muslims against every religion as it was written in the Qu'ran.

Mr Dax
12-26-2007, 12:42 PM
dasun can i ask u your opinion, do u think ther will b a islamic state in our life time? personally i think a islamic khalipha wil b coming sooner then people think

DaSun
12-26-2007, 12:52 PM
dasun can i ask u your opinion, do u think ther will b a islamic state in our life time? personally i think a islamic khalipha wil b coming sooner then people think

Yep, only if we Muslims come together and help out our Muslim brothers and sisters struggling and dying. Rich countries with more Islamic influence like (Saudi Arabia, Egypt, U A E, Jordan, etc. )

Like you said people don't think is coming soon, but it is, look at every news on tv, it has to do something with the religion Islam or Muslim countries.

For instance, when my country Somalia was have a war last december against Ethipia, the US out of nowwhere came and started bombing and helping out the Ethipians, their reason, was 'cause they thought Somalia was a base for Al-Qaeda and since we're a Muslim country, we fit with the bill, and no other Muslim country helped us, we defended our own.

Until we Muslim unite and fight for the religion and for Allah, then nothing can stop us, like it says on the Qu'ran if Allah's with you than no human, machine, can be in your way.

Allahu Akbar.

Mr Dax
12-26-2007, 12:56 PM
good answer i also think that muslims need to start going back to the sunnah of the prophet (pbuh)......when muslims pack the mosques in fajr prayer then islam wil b back and thats the truth but unfortunatly we dont even keep up with the faraz prayers........and i have to start wit myself as im very inconsitant with my prayers

DaSun
12-26-2007, 02:02 PM
Dax, I'm in your shoes too, there's at times I miss the prayers, but not on purpose, just by forgetful and at times laziness, but like you said, until we get our act together, follow the basic five pillars, and follow the hadith.